Submitted by: Jackie Juntti
WOW - the explosion of responses to the WAC and RCW Detention camps post has gotten me to thinking that perhaps I need to re-establish the message board as there have been a ton of comments and information that overwhelms the email pattern. Let me know if you would like me to re-establish the WGEN messagboard. If enough of you would use it I will put one up.
Jackie Juntti
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Here are a few of the new e-mails this morning:
Lynn —
As to point #3 . . . WACs are not authorized as statutes. There are two tracks of law here, statutory law and administrative law.
We have been conditioned to believe we need the administrative laws because our legislative branches have failed in their duty to fully and precisely make the laws (statutes) and have long allowed/expected the agencies to fill in the gaps. Our courts have, through formal and informal deference to the agencies, allowed this failure to perform the legislative branch’s constitutionally mandated duties in full to the detriment of the citizenry and, ultimately, the nation. These failures of the legislative and judicial branches have made it possible for the executive branch agencies and the executive to run away with our government.
We would not need administrative laws if the statutes passed by the legislature and signed into law by the executive were as complete in their substance as they were in intent.
The whole mish-mash is extra-constitutional in not just the states, but also the federal government, as well as in most of the nation’s counties and municipalities. A largely disinterested citizenry has allowed this to happen, and the media have long “helped” the process along the way.
It’s not right. A lot of it is not constitutional. Neither of those points prevent it being reality.
. . . And if you really want to get down into the weeds on this kind of stuff, you have to keep in mind that every agency and every branch of every agency has a mountain of policy manuals, guidance, and “best” practices that take us all much further afield from our statutes and constitutions. Agency field offices also have their own sets of policy supplements. It gets real ugly, real fast.
I work in natural resource policy. Welcome to my world.
Norm
Subject: RE: RE: WAC 246-100-040 ...Procedures for Isolation or Quarantine. of You & Me America...,WTFU (Actual Docs)
Riddle me this – If Norm is correct, in his assertions,
1.then why would we need both RCWs and WACs?
2.that “administrative law (rules and regulations authorized by statutes, typically authored by executive branch agencies)”, would not such stand in direct violation of the Washington State Constitution?
3.What RCW or RCWs “authorize [WACs] as statutes?
Lynn
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Hi All,
I was in the very long Zoom meeting by the WA State Department of Health on Thursday, regarding the quarantine and isolation camps for Covid/unvaxed, and putting the Covid "vaccines," on the required immunization list for school children. They seemed to deny those concerns, and said those were not on the agenda to discuss at that meeting. Most of us felt that they were going to talk about them at a future meeting, from the way they said it. It might be because of the huge response they had in comments and people wanting to testify. They had 7500 people sign up to testify against these measures, and only a few got in to actually testify, sadly, but enough did, that I think they "caught our drift,' of why so many people were concerned with what had been posted on their agenda for that day. They acted like they knew nothing about the quarantine/isolation camps, but at the end, someone from their office, did let them know that there was such a facility in WA State.
So, my friend Lynn sent me the below, which might beg to differ with them saying that they weren't knowledgeable about the quarantine facilities. Take a look and tell me what you think? Some of these jobs were just posted, or at least it says that on Indeed. I have taken screen shots of all of the pages, in case they 'disappear.'
Go take a look at all the “isolation/quarantine” jobs open in Washington State -
https://www.indeed.com/q-
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