EVEN SOROS SEES THE EU IS DOOMED TO FAILURE

Submitted by Donald Hank:

 

This is an amazing interview. It shows that Soros, who, while devious and centered on his own financial interests, sees the handwriting on the wall and is preparing for a world without the EU. Note, however, that he deplores this turn of events because it is easier for a billionaire like him to make money when financial trends are controlled by large entities like the EU that are corrupt and can be manipulated than to deal with individual nations, especially when these nations are looking out for their own national interests and not the interests of gloablist billionaires like him. He seems a little afraid and he should be.

MY COMMENTS IN BRACKETS. DON HANK

ZAKARIA: George Soros has made one of world's great fortunes betting on global trends, and he is deeply troubled by events and political trends in Ukraine, specifically, but Europe more broadly. He's just back from the region and he joins me to talk about what he saw, what he thinks and where he's putting his money.

George Soros, pleasure to have you on.

GEORGE SOROS, AUTHOR, "THE TRAGEDY OF THE EUROPEAN UNION": Same here.

ZAKARIA: First on Ukraine, one of the things that many people recognized about you was that you during the revolutions of 1989 funded a lot of dissident activities, civil society groups in eastern Europe and Poland, the Czech Republic. Are you doing similar things in Ukraine?

SOROS: Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia. And the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now.[HERE IS ANOTHER SOROS BOMBSHELL CONFESSION. DID YOU CATCH THAT? "PLAYED AN IMPORTANT PART IN EVENTS NOW". NOW NOTE WELL THAT HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING BEHIND THESE DISTURBANCES AND US POLITICAL CLASS and MSM HAVE COVERED FOR HIM SAYING THAT IS PREPOSTEROUS, BUT HERE HE IS BRAZENLY ADMITTING IT. HE THINKS HE IS A HERO AND IS TOO PROUD TO DENY IT. AND HE KNOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE TOO BLIND OR CONFUSED TO NOTICE--DON]
ZAKARIA: Do you think Ukraine will be able to assert a kind of independence from Russia and an alignment with the West not -- but not a specific alignment as NATO but a kind of orientation toward the West or will the Russians always stop them?

SOROS: No. Putin will try to destabilize Ukraine [THERE HE GOES AGAIN. HE JUST ADMITTED THAT HIS FOUNDATIONS PLAYED AN IMPORTANT PART IN STAGING THIS COUP BUT ACTS AS IF THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND THAT IT IS RUSSIA'S FAULT. THIS IS LEFTIST GLOBALIST DOUBLE TALK AT ITS FINEST], but the Ukrainians, the large majority of Ukrainians are determined to be independent of Russia [HE IS IGNORING THE VAST NUMBER OF PRO-RUSSIANS AND RUSSIAN SPEAKERS IN EASTERN UKRAINE. HIS ANTIRUSSIAN RACISM IS SHOWING]. It won't be easy because Putin has staked his regime on destabilizing Ukraine because it's a threat to his regime in Russia [THIS IS A HUGE LIE. RUSSIA DID NOT DESTABILITE UKRAINE. THE WEST DID IT AND SOROS WAS ONE OF THE MAIN AGENTS OF THIS UNREST, AS HE HAS JUST ADMITTED AT THE OUTSET]. If you have freedom, free media and so on and a flourishing economy, that would make his regime unsustainable [THIS IS PARTLY TRUE. IF RUSSIA ALLOWS WESTERN AGENTS FREE REIN, ALLOWS THEM TO SPREAD ANTI RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA AND DESTABILIZE RUSSIA, THEN OF COURSE, BUT RUSSIA CANNOT AFFORD TO LET WESTERN AGENTS PROVOCATEURS SPREAD THE KIND OF POISON THAT HAS TURNED THE WEST INTO A BROTHEL, PROMOTING PERVERSION AND IMMORALITY, DISCREDITING JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES AND AT THE SAME TIME, PROMOTING KEYNESIANISM, A VARIANT OF MARXISM WHICH HAS FAILED JUST AS MISERABLY AS ITS MORE DIRECT VERSION].

ZAKARIA: He accuses the Ukrainians of being anti-Semitic, of them being full of anti-Semitic fascists. You operate in Ukraine. You're of Jewish origin. Have you detected virulent anti Semitism in Ukraine?

SOROS: Well, anti-Semitisms means collector of the DNA of that part of the world [WHATEVER THAT MEANS...?]. So there is anti-Semitism. But there is much more in the east, in the Russian dominated part. That is this so-called independent republic. But there's actually atrocities against Jews and gypsies. [THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO ELABORATE. WHO COMMITTED THE ATROCITIES, ETC. BUT THAT WOULD BE PRETTY HARD SINCE SOROS IS WINGING THIS. HE IS TRYING TO COVER FOR THE FACT THAT MCCAIN AND THE GERMAN FOREIGN MINISTER MET WITH SVOBODA FOUNDER OLEH TYAHNYBOK, WHOM THE SIMONE WIESENTHAL CENTER LISTS ON THEIR SITE AS THE NO. 5 MOST DANGEROUS ANTISEMITE IN THE WORLD]
ZAKARIA: You have been very pessimistic or gloomy about Europe. Do think that in this Ukraine situation you're seeing another aspect of the tragedy of Europe, the lack of collective action?

SOROS: Unfortunately, Europe is very weak. It's preoccupied with the eternal problems which are unresolved. The euro crisis is no longer a financial crisis. It's turning into political crisis and you're going to see in the elections and Putin --

ZAKARIA: Explain what that means. It's going to be -- you're going to see it in the elections because you're going to see the rise of nationalist anti-European forces? [NOTICE HOW THE MODERATOR ALSO SUGGESTS THAT THERE IS SOMETHING SINISTER ABOUT THE ANTI-EU PARTIES. BUT THE ONES IN NORTHERN EUROPE ARE RUN BY SQUEAKY CLEAN LEADERS LIKE WILDERS AND LEPEN. IN THE LONG RUN, PEOPLE WILL LEARN THE TRUTH]

SOROS: Yes, and interestingly, they are supported by Russia and pro-Russian. So Russia has emerged as an alternative to the European Union. Putin has sort of come out of the closet in Ukraine [NONSENSE. PUTIN DID NOT COME OUT OF THE CLOSET IN UKRAINE. HE WAS NEVER IN THE CLOSET AT ALL. PUTIN IS OPENLY PRO RUSSIAN AND ALWAYS WAS. THIS IS DISTURBING TO A POLITICICAL GLOBALIST LIKE SOROS, WHO FIRMLY BELIEVES THAT LOVE OF ONE'S OWN COUNTRY IS TANTAMOUNT TO FASCISM AND WILL AUTOMATICALLY CAUSE WARS. IN FACT, GLOBALISM IS CAUSING MORE WARS THAN NATIONALISM]. With their ideology that is nationalist , be some ethic nationalism, you could call it Russism [YOU COULD, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY, BUT AS EARLY AS THE 1800S THERE WERE RUSSOPHILS AND EUROPHILES IN RUSSIA, AS EVIDENCED BY DESCRIPTIONS IN 19TH CENTURY NOVELS SUCH AS "NEST OF NOBLEFOLK" BY TURGENEV AND "WAR AND PEACE" BY TOLSTOY, AND WHILE THIS WAS A SECONDARY DICHOTOMY COMPARED TO COMMUNISM VS CONSERVATISM, THE RUSSOPHILIC NATURE OF SOVIET LEADERS WAS ALWAYS VISIBLE IN THEIR POLICIES. ONLY GORBACHEV WAS CLEARLY A WESTERN TYPE EUROPHILE. THE OTHERS WERE ALL TO SOME EXTENT RUSSOPHILES, IN SPITE OF ALL THE TALK ABOUT THE PROLETARIANS OF THE WORLD UNITING.]

ZAKARIA: That's right.

SOROS: It's a new word to describe it because I don't want to call it Nazi because it is very similar to what you had in the end of warfare and fascism, you know -- [THIS IS A LIE AND SOROS KNOWS IT. HE KNEW THE NAZIS FIRSTHAND. HE ONCE ADMITTED THAT HE HELPED THE NAZIS CONFISCATE JEWS' POSSESSIONS IN HUNGARY AND SAID THIS WAS A HAPPY TIME IN HIS LIFE. I SAW THIS 60 MINUTES INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE BEFORE IT WAS TAKEN DOWN. SOROS KNOWS THAT PUTIN IS ANYTHING BUT A NAZI. WHAT IS MORE, THE EU HAS GERMAN FASCIST ROOTS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, for example: http://www.firstpost.com/topic/organization/united-nations-the-nazi-fascist-origins-of-the-eu-superstate-idea-rodney-video-yV-6pHdUpfk-55-9.html. POLITICAL GLOBALISTS ARE SYMPATHETIC TO NAZISM, WHILE THE NEW ANTI-EU PARTIES IN HOLLAND, UK AND FRANCE ARE REPULSED BY IT. I READ THEIR NEWSLETTERS AND LISTEN TO THEIR TAPED SPEECHES. THERE IS ONLY ONE RACIST PARTY IN THESE COUNTRIES AND THAT IS THE BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY, WHICH IS A NON-ENTITY. NORTHERN EUROPEANS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN RACISM. THEY HAVE A COLLECTIVE MEMORY OF THE HELL HITLER PUT THEM THROUGH]
ZAKARIA: Connecting your ethnic groups with military force if necessary?

SOROS: But it's more than that. It's a new theology. You saw the myth of Russian superiority. If you -- those who watch Putin's speeches, he actually has revealed this new myth of Russian genetic superiority. You might have heard that previously from someone else. It's a new ideology based on ethnic Russian superiority. [OF COURSE, SOROS HAS NO APPRECIATION FOR LOVE OF ONE'S OWN COUNTRY. POLITICAL GLOBALISTS HAVE NO ALLEGIANCE TO ANY COUNTRY INCL THEIR OWN. THE NEW ANTI-EU PARTIES ARE ALL PROMOTING SOMETHING NATURAL, THE LOVE OF ONE'S HOMELAND. BUT THE GLOBLISTS HATE THIS AND ARE INTENT ON SMEARING IT BY COMPARING IT TO THE THIRD REICH, AND YET IT WAS THE THIRD REICH THAT SPAWNED THE EU. BTW, IN THE WEST'S WAR ON CHRISTIAN SERBIA, JOURNALISTS AND POLITICIANS TRIED TO PORTRAY THE KOROVARS AS THE INNOCENT VICTIMS. YET THE MUSLIM KOSOVARS WERE ANYTHING BUT INNOCENT. THEY TOO PERPETRATED ATROCITIES AGAINST THE SERBS. DURING WW II, HITLER CHOSE THE KOSOVARS AS ALLIES TO HELP DESTROY THE SERBS. THEY REPORTEDLY KILLED 10,000 SERBS AT THE TIME]
ZAKARIA: And as you saw a lot of these nationalists who are -- who are doing well in European -- the European-wide elections seemed very pro-Russian whether on the left on the right. Do you think nationalism could break up the European Union?

SOROS: Yes, it's that and Europe needs to recognize it, and we need to recognize it, actually. We need to have bipartisan foreign policy. [NOT SURE WHAT HE MEANS BY THAT. HOWEVER, GEERT WILDERS RECENTLY SAID THAT HOLLAND SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO NEGOTIATE BILATERALLY WITH INDIVIDUAL NATIONS. THE EU DENIES MEMBER STATES THAT RIGHT. SOROS MAY BE IMPLYING THAT THE EU IS COMING TO AN END--HE IS RIGHT--AND THAT THE US SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH INDIVIDUAL EUROPEAN COUNTRIES AGAIN. IF THIS IS WHAT HE MEANS, THEN HE IS SENSING THAT IT WILL SOON BE OVER FOR THE EU.] We used to have that, and we have lost it. So we need to reestablish it because there is a real threat. And so that is a threat to America also. Because what's happening in Ukraine and in Europe is having repercussions in Asia, you know, the Chinese -- that is establishing facts on the ground.

(CROSSTALK)

SOROS: Consequences and Putin just being in China and they have a common interest they are establishing one of -- which isn't actually anti U.S. [WELL, MAYBE MR. SOROS, BUT IT ISN'T PRO US EITHER, IS IT?]
ZAKARIA: Sobering words, George Soros. Thank you very much for coming on.

SOROS: Pleasure.

DON HANK	3:47 PM (50 minutes ago)
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This is an amazing interview. It shows that Soros, who, while devious and centered on his own financial interests, sees the handwriting on the wall and is preparing for a world without the EU. Note, however, that he deplores this turn of events because it is easier for a billionaire like him to make money when financial trends are controlled by large entities like the EU that are corrupt and can be manipulated than to deal with individual nations, especially when these nations are looking out for their own national interests and not the interests of globalist billionaires like him. He seems a little afraid and he should be. This is very good news for ordiary people.

MY COMMENTS IN BRACKETS. DON HANK

ZAKARIA: George Soros has made one of world's great fortunes betting on global trends, and he is deeply troubled by events and political trends in Ukraine, specifically, but Europe more broadly. He's just back from the region and he joins me to talk about what he saw, what he thinks and where he's putting his money.

George Soros, pleasure to have you on.

GEORGE SOROS, AUTHOR, "THE TRAGEDY OF THE EUROPEAN UNION": Same here.

ZAKARIA: First on Ukraine, one of the things that many people recognized about you was that you during the revolutions of 1989 funded a lot of dissident activities, civil society groups in eastern Europe and Poland, the Czech Republic. Are you doing similar things in Ukraine?

SOROS: Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia. And the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now.[HERE IS ANOTHER SOROS BOMBSHELL CONFESSION. DID YOU CATCH THAT? HIS FOUNDATION "PLAYED AN IMPORTANT PART IN EVENTS NOW". NOW NOTE WELL THAT HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING BEHIND THESE DISTURBANCES AND the US POLITICAL CLASS and MSM HAVE COVERED FOR HIM SAYING THAT IS PREPOSTEROUS, BUT HERE HE IS BRAZENLY ADMITTING IT. HE THINKS HE IS A HERO AND IS TOO PROUD TO DENY IT. AND HE KNOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE TOO BLIND OR CONFUSED TO NOTICE--DON]

ZAKARIA: Do you think Ukraine will be able to assert a kind of independence from Russia and an alignment with the West not -- but not a specific alignment as NATO but a kind of orientation toward the West or will the Russians always stop them?

SOROS: No. Putin will try to destabilize Ukraine [THERE HE GOES AGAIN. HE JUST ADMITTED THAT HIS FOUNDATIONS PLAYED AN IMPORTANT PART IN STAGING THIS COUP BUT IN THE NEXT BREATH ACTS AS IF THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DESTABILIZATION AND THAT IT IS RUSSIA'S FAULT. THIS IS LEFTIST GLOBALIST DOUBLE TALK AT ITS FINEST], but the Ukrainians, the large majority of Ukrainians are determined to be independent of Russia [HE IS IGNORING THE VAST NUMBER OF PRO-RUSSIANS AND RUSSIAN SPEAKERS IN EASTERN UKRAINE. HIS ANTIRUSSIAN RACISM IS SHOWING]. It won't be easy because Putin has staked his regime on destabilizing Ukraine because it's a threat to his regime in Russia [THIS IS A HUGE LIE. RUSSIA DID NOT DESTABILITE UKRAINE. THE WEST DID IT AND SOROS WAS ONE OF THE MAIN AGENTS OF THIS UNREST, AS HE HAS JUST ADMITTED AT THE OUTSET]. If you have freedom, free media and so on and a flourishing economy, that would make his regime unsustainable [THIS IS PARTLY TRUE. IF RUSSIA ALLOWS WESTERN AGENTS FREE REIN, ALLOWS THEM TO SPREAD ANTI RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA AND DESTABILIZE RUSSIA, THEN OF COURSE THIS IS A THREAT, BUT RUSSIA CANNOT AFFORD TO LET WESTERN AGENTS PROVOCATEURS SPREAD THE KIND OF POISON THAT HAS TURNED THE WEST INTO A BROTHEL, PROMOTING PERVERSION AND IMMORALITY, DISCREDITING JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES AND AT THE SAME TIME, PROMOTING KEYNESIANISM, A VARIANT OF MARXISM WHICH HAS FAILED JUST AS MISERABLY AS ITS MORE DIRECT VERSION].

ZAKARIA: He accuses the Ukrainians of being anti-Semitic, of them being full of anti-Semitic fascists. You operate in Ukraine. You're of Jewish origin. Have you detected virulent anti Semitism in Ukraine?

SOROS: Well, anti-Semitisms means collector of the DNA of that part of the world [WHATEVER THAT MEANS...?]. So there is anti-Semitism. But there is much more in the east, in the Russian dominated part. That is this so-called independent republic. But there's actually atrocities against Jews and gypsies. [THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO ELABORATE. WHO COMMITTED THE ATROCITIES, ETC. BUT THAT WOULD BE PRETTY HARD SINCE SOROS IS WINGING THIS. HE IS TRYING TO COVER FOR THE FACT THAT MCCAIN AND THE GERMAN FOREIGN MINISTER MET WITH SVOBODA FOUNDER OLEH TYAHNYBOK, WHOM THE SIMONE WIESENTHAL CENTER LISTS ON THEIR SITE AS THE NO. 5 MOST DANGEROUS ANTISEMITE IN THE WORLD. NICE TRY, GEORGE]
ZAKARIA: You have been very pessimistic or gloomy about Europe. Do think that in this Ukraine situation you're seeing another aspect of the tragedy of Europe, the lack of collective action? [WHEN A GLOBALIST MENTIONS 'EUROPE, HE IS REFERRING TO THE EU. IF THERE IS A TRAGEDY OF EUROPE, THEN THAT MEANS THE EU IS IN SERIOUS TROUBLE AND THERE IS NO WAY OUT. AGAIN, SOROS IS SO RIGHT ON THIS ASPECT]

SOROS: Unfortunately, Europe is very weak. It's preoccupied with the eternal problems which are unresolved. The euro crisis is no longer a financial crisis. It's turning into political crisis and you're going to see in the elections and Putin --

ZAKARIA: Explain what that means. It's going to be -- you're going to see it in the elections because you're going to see the rise of nationalist anti-European forces? [NOTICE HOW THE MODERATOR ALSO SUGGESTS THAT THERE IS SOMETHING SINISTER ABOUT THE ANTI-EU PARTIES. BUT THE ONES IN NORTHERN EUROPE ARE RUN BY SQUEAKY CLEAN LEADERS LIKE WILDERS AND LEPEN. IN THE LONG RUN, PEOPLE WILL LEARN THE TRUTH]

SOROS: Yes, and interestingly, they are supported by Russia and pro-Russian. So Russia has emerged as an alternative to the European Union. Putin has sort of come out of the closet in Ukraine [NONSENSE. PUTIN DID NOT COME OUT OF THE CLOSET IN UKRAINE. HE WAS NEVER IN THE CLOSET AT ALL. PUTIN IS OPENLY PRO RUSSIAN AND ALWAYS WAS. THIS IS DISTURBING TO A POLITICICAL GLOBALIST LIKE SOROS, WHO FIRMLY BELIEVES THAT LOVE OF ONE'S OWN COUNTRY IS TANTAMOUNT TO FASCISM AND WILL AUTOMATICALLY CAUSE WARS. IN FACT, GLOBALISM IS CAUSING MORE WARS THAN NATIONALISM]. With their ideology that is nationalist , be some ethic nationalism, you could call it Russism [YOU COULD, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY, BUT AS EARLY AS THE 1800S THERE WAS A SPLIT BETWEEN RUSSOPHILS AND EUROPHILES IN RUSSIA, AS EVIDENCED BY DESCRIPTIONS IN 19TH CENTURY NOVELS SUCH AS "NEST OF NOBLEFOLK" BY TURGENEV AND "WAR AND PEACE" BY TOLSTOY, AND WHILE THIS WAS A SECONDARY DICHOTOMY COMPARED TO COMMUNISM VS CONSERVATISM, THE RUSSOPHILIC NATURE OF SOVIET LEADERS WAS ALWAYS VISIBLE IN THEIR POLICIES. ONLY GORBACHEV WAS CLEARLY A WESTERN TYPE EUROPHILE. THE OTHERS WERE ALL TO SOME EXTENT RUSSOPHILES, IN SPITE OF ALL THE TALK ABOUT THE PROLETARIANS OF THE WORLD UNITING.]