Submitted by: BobJen
Comment: First of all, our sincerest compliments to those of you who "got it" and are participating in our national Natural Born Citizen Definition Poll. Many others stubbornly refuse and hide their heads in the ground trying to avoid it. Well, YOU CAN'T. One way or another, YOU will have to face it.
That's why we're doing the NBC Poll on BOTH Congresscritters and readers/Patriots. So, if you're awake now, do provide us with YOUR own definition of NBC. This is not a legal test (no reference sources wanted).
The writer below, however, makes some outrageously unsupported statements (and if anyone can get me his email, I will write him...Victor Garcia,Fox News Latino). We say this is a "plant" column.
The point is, IF the definition was indeed settled, Sabato would not have said what he did (No matter how many try to convince others that their own definition is right.) Btw, some have asked what mine is. There was only one person whose definition is closest to mine, almost word for word.
What is troubling is that after 6 years, Garcia says the same ol' unsubstantiated disinformation, in fact, he seems to be crafting his own form of revisionist history, such as:
1)-- and given that Cruz was born in Canada, it's unknown if he'd qualify for U.S. president.
<Unknown??? Not what from many of you said and what some congresscritters said. What's he snorting?2)The so-called
<"so called"?
>"birther" issue dogged
<Past tense? Guess he only listens to absent FAUX instead of all that's been happening throughout.
>both President Barack Obama, whose critics claimed was born in Kenya though he’s long insisted he was born in Hawaii,
<Well THE one and only birth place would be easily resolved if he provided HIS OWN, reportedly sealed and vaulted (at $5 million taxpayer expense...should it not then be rightly accessible through FOIA?), valid, rightly-certified as his "Original Hawaiian Birth Certificate" document (NOT electronic image).
> and former presidential candidate John McCain, an Arizona GOP senator who was born in a U.S. Naval base in Panama. [...]
<Excuse me? Where did he get that mcamnesty was born on base...instead of "in Panama"? Personally, and regardless, if his bio-folks were on duty/mission anywhere, he's "nbc" by me. And I'm no mcamnesty fan..at all. However, and this is key..The Senate passed a "non-binding" resolution declaring mcamnesty "nbc".
Now the question is (and Neil T is closest here), what full definition of "nbc" did the Senate use in declaring mcamnesty "nbc"? And..... that is something that everyone should be asking all Congresscritters, especially Republicans/Conservatives of the crafters of that resolution.
That is yet another reason for our poll.
>In 2008,.....the “birther” movement, .....declared that the senator (Obama) was ineligible because he was allegedly born in Kenya,
<ABSOLUTELY FALSE. They wanted valid proof of his birthplace. Plus, what definition of "nbc" was used?
>Obama released his birth certificate
<ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Obama did nothing of the kind. The source was never revealed. AND it was NOT his birth certificate. It was a copy of an electronic image.
But MOST IMPORTANT is the indisputable fact that the 2008 "CoLB" was/is INVALID. Says so at it's very bottom..or can Mr. Gonzales show us where the "CoLB's" required certification number is shown? And it's the same one that the Liar O'Lielly showed on his "(barf) "show". Says it at its bottom too. Caso cerrado. Punto.
>Fox News senior judicial analyst and former New Jersey Superior Court Judge Andrew Napolitano believes Cruz is eligible as well. "The children of at least one American citizen are natural-born citizens, no matter where they were born," Napolitano said.
<And this, folks, is THE REASON FOR OUR POLL...because of this definition...the same one that Neil T and I were given by Cong. Brian Bilbray's office 5 year ago. This can not stand.
Now many of you respect what Judge Napolitano says. However, in my opinion, this is being said to shut you all up because the heat is rising in the kitchen. And I think that all you Judge Nappy fans should tell him to put it in writing.
>(Orly) Taitz said that he is ineligible and would advise Cruz not to waste money on an explorative committee and instead demand a ruling from the courts on the issue. [...]
<YES! Demand a ruling from the courts...and then hold on.
>Larry Sabato, a national political expert who directs the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, said considering its volatile nature, the issue should not be left in limbo. The Supreme Court should make a final and definitive call, he noted.
“There has to be some kind of way to get a ruling on this,” Sabato said. “We need one now.”
>Larry Sabato, a national political expert who directs the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, said considering its volatile nature, the issue should not be left in limbo. The Supreme Court should make a final and definitive call, he noted.
“There has to be some kind of way to get a ruling on this,” Sabato said. “We need one now.”
<<<ABSOLUTELY....AND "NOW"...if not sooner. But hang on to your hats anyway.>Such a step is necessary because the Founding Fathers did not make it clear exactly what they meant by "natural-born citizen." Thus the myriad interpretations floating around. [...] -
>"They’re going to have to assemble a packet of statements of widely prominent constitutional lawyers that say he is eligible to run,” Sabato said.
<<<EXACTLY WHY WE STARTED THAT POLL OF CONGRESSCRITTERRS, ATTORNEYS (including Holzer whom many of you said insulted and disrespected you) AND OTHERS.
Got it now, poll non-particpants??? If you don't have an opinion worthy of voicing, they will craft one for you in the middle of the night...and you will have ZERO say.
Are we getting through to you, yet? So, please, speak up and let us know YOUR definition.
<Notice how this column didn't even mention the 4-25-11, as Diana West also cites it, "electronic image"???
And why should Garcia do it? He had to distort the facts more than enough in what he did write.
As for the 4-25-11 "one", in spite of what "all the writers and others" said, that it was his "original Hawaiian Birth Certificate", just look at its "certification" too. Does it say it is exactly that? NOPE...and that's the purpose of the certification..."It is only what it says it is". Period.
Plus there that little fact that the word "THE" therein is spelled "TXE". Should be interesting to see if it's also misspelled in the additional Hawaiian Birth Certificate presented for the upcoming court case, and the others with the 4-25-11 "one". involving Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Mike Zullo, where forensics have declared it (all) as "forgeries".
In closing, please remember that there are, at a minimum two parts to this:
1) There must be a clear, concise definition of "natural born citizen" (by SCOTUS may or may not be best).
2) There must be rock-solid, valid, rightly-certified, correct, exact proof that fulfills that definition (such as, e.g., Mr. Obama's OWN "Original Hawaiian Birth Certificate").
Stay in touch.
Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/05/02/does-tx-sen-ted-cruz-qualify-for-president-though-was-born-in-canada/#ixzz2SH2DyM2t
Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/05/02/does-tx-sen-ted-cruz-qualify-for-president-though-was-born-in-canada/#ixzz2SH2DyM2t
The Fox Asshats think they are fooling you. The Constitution is a dictionary? MSM will continue to push Canadian-born Ted Cruz...REALITY: Constitutional Law Professor Herb Titus Explains What Natural Born Citizen Really Means - VIDEO HERE.
Excerpts Via Victor Garcia @ Fox News Latino
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